Guys check out pixelfed. Its better than Instagram.Same concept of fediverse as Lemmy and Mastodon.
Website: https://pixelfed.org
Servers: https://pixelfed.org/servers
Even has a android client called pixeldroid on fdroid.
I love the idea of this, but the only reason I check Instagram is to see what my friends are posting, which I couldn’t do on an alternative, sadly.
That really is an issue. Shave your head, put an orange robe on and evangelize… I’ll try to convince as many people as possible in my friends circle!
This is actually why I’m excited for ActivityPub in Threads. I’m hoping that it can function as a gateway drug to the Fediverse.
“Like Threads? Then continue to follow all your friends there while moving to an ad-free Mastodon client!”
Totally, I really wish the panic would die down. I’d love it if I could bring my friends over here, and there’s no way they’re going to do that without something like Threads.
Lol
I use Instagram (well, Instander) for the bands I like. I wish I didn’t have to but it’s useful for these reasons. Ditched Facebook but unfortunately can’t loose them both 😤
This is why I have a barebones Facebook account. Simply so people can reach me that only use that.
This being said it is also sandboxed into web browsers and I refuse to give them permissions for my phone.
Same for me. Same with Snap. I’ve never used SnapChat before, but once I actively went to parties it’s impossible to not use it.
I don’t really understand how that would work. I’m on Instagram because I follow some specific artists, collectives, companies, labels, etc., and secondarily for friends. If those are not on Pixelfed, what is there to follow?
Although Lemmy suffers of quite a content draught on less populated communities, it still works like Reddit since you follow topics, not people.
Instagram also has a full account data export feature, and Pixelfed can import from that data. When I used it earlier this week it seemed to ignore my latest posts, which use the webp format instead of jpg or png. But since the import is processed server-side once they resolve that I should be able to import from the same zip and get just those missing posts.
I didn’t know this was possible! Thanks for sharing, will give this a try.
Hate the be a downer but I can’t see anyone but “tech savvy” people joining this. I can’t even get my sister to verify her Zelle account to get money I sent her. Having to choose a server is going to be wildly confusing to most people.
Well, to be fair, Zelle sucks, but point taken.
Out of curiosity how would you choose a server? I joined Lenny.ml as it was the first one I saw.
I joined after the Apollo debacle started with Reddit, so I joined what had the most users at that moment and it was lemmy.world. But I already had a good idea of how these federated apps work, so I wasn’t super worried about which I picked. I imagine a random normie instagram user would delete the app as soon as they saw the list of servers, if they even got that far.
Go to their homepage and see what the general vibe is of the posts, you can tell almost immediately what it’s all about.
well do you know what “ml” stays for in your full user name?
Just so you know the ml stands for marxist lennist I’m pretty sure
They will adapt or be left behind, at least for a while. In fact, that might be a good thing.
Instagram differs from Reddit in the sense that most people use Instagram because that’s where their friends and family are. You’re posting more personal things there. An alternative doesn’t really work for most users if no one they know is using it. Good luck with the push, though.
Yeah this is the issue I have. I wouldn’t even be on instagram if it my friends weren’t on it. Pixelfed has a much tougher road to snatch users than a place like Lemmy or even Mastodon for that reason. If everyone I know hopped over with me (which let’s be real, I would never be able to get everyone to do that because they would run into the same issue with their own friend networks) then i’d gladly move over.
I like pixelfed. I have a pixelfed account, and feature-wise, I see how it could replace someone’s use of instagram, but personally, I was never on instagram for its features. I was on instagram because I made friends in real life who I couldn’t keep in touch with in absolutely any other way. Meanwhile, I am on pixelfed because I like the idea of a federated social media platform based around images, but I have zero connections on that platform.
I posted to it twice. Then, I realized that, unless I could convince the people that I knew on instagram to join pixelfed, it would never be the same experience, so I stopped. I would just rather post pictures to my mastodon account which has more reach than my pixelfed. The concept of an image based social media platform is less compelling when you don’t know anyone there, and this is what Meta is banking on.
Sure, there are alternatives to Instagram that are better, but all of my IRL friends & family are on Meta platforms already and don’t want to leave 🤷♀️, so what’s the point? Even if I manage to convince someone that it is important, they might bail at some point because they can’t convince the people they know from instagram to join the alternative, and that’s how it is all down the line: friction, friction, friction.
Here’s a good reason. Since Facebook likes to spy on you, I put Instagram on my work profile on Android, effectively sandboxing it. I’d had the account for several years at this point. Just the other day, it told me that my account had been flagged for violating the rules and trying to access data I wasn’t supposed to have access to. It asked me to upload an image of myself with a code written on a piece of paper to prove I wasn’t a bot, and they still deleted my profile and said I was acting as a bot and that I could not appeal the decision or talk to a human about it.
I agree it’s a bit of a pain to get people to join these nerd apps, but man, it beats dealing with non-interactive bot/algorithm, punishing you for fighting back against having your information stolen.
I think you’re spot on. I use Instagram for one niche sport I do, hydrofoil surfing. Everyone who foils is on there, and as a result the development speed of this 5-year-old sport is incredible. Someone in Australia invents a new maneuver, posts a video of it, and a few hours later while they’re sleeping people in America are trying it out.
None of that is happening on pixelfed. I tried it out too, and, meh. There’s just nothing interesting on there, and it’s too complicated to explain to non techies. So there’s a huge barrier to entry and no compelling reason to surmount it. Heck, I have an advanced degree in informatics and I barely made it over the choose an instance wall. My perma-stoned surfing buddies don’t stand a chance.
They’re adding support to sign up to pixelfed with your mastodon account as well. Pretty neat.
https://mastodon.social/@dansup/110671802845980100Oh sweet!
Maybe I should give it a try. I’ve been on instragram for like 10 years and I’m quite proud of the quality of content on my page (smartphone nature photography) but I only have like 23 followers and posting there seems like talking to trees. Why even bother if people rather watch short videos instead of photos.
Yep you need pretty girls in your photos, shorts, reels, stories, 20hashtags per image, and co stant interaction bait just to gain some bot followers
I quit a few years back and do not miss it.
I mean, yes if your goal is to have many followers on Instagram. I mainly use Instagram to share stuff with family and friends, because this is the only app which all of them use.
What’s your Instagram address?
Or better: open a second parallel account on Pixelfed. And let us know your account.
For some unsolicited advice, you could do better with networking on Instagram through hashtags, following similar people and browsing their work. I posted desolate building photos for 2-3 years and ended up with ~500 followers, which isn’t really much but a lot more than 23.
They have made the algorithm steadily worse over the years, though. Back in 2013-2014 people I knew from a niche art community ended up with 5-50k and since then it has slowed down a huge amount. People whose followers increased by 20,000 from 2014-2016 have increased by maybe 3,000 in the subsequent 7 years.
Yeah I’ve been using hashtags but probably incorrectly because I’m tagging what’s actually on the photo and not what the popular hashtags are. I’m also posting quite irregularly.
I’m not trying to grow a big audience or anything. I’ll keep taking photos for myself nevertheless but I’d also like to share the best ones with others but with intagram it just feels like waste of time. On twitter I post about just as often but there I have 1600 followers (of which a significant portion is bots though)
If you want people to see your work, you have to find the popular hashtags for your niche. Check out photos by people who post similar stuff and see what they use. For my stuff I could have labeled them #door #abandonedbuilding or #oldstorefront but the tags in popular use are more like #facadelovers #windowshiding and #ihavethisthingwithwalls.
The only reason I use Instagram is to see my friends’ statuses. I don’t use Snapchat, so it’s basically the only way for me to see what others are doing. Reddit didn’t really have any personal aspect, so it was easy to switch to Lemmy. But I don’t think I’m gonna leave Instagram anytime soon.
ditto for that. only in there to see friends and i havent posted for years.
I’m using a third party instagram app though. so, UP YOURS ZUCK THE ANDROID!
which app do you use?
yeah I need a 3rd party app for insta too Their official app is a privacy eating pest hence I use it on chrome android
am also very curious, didnt know this was possible. a more privacy-friendly instagram app would be amazing
The two servers in the UK are a furry server and a Scotland server…
Suggests England is mostly furries
“We shall yiff on the beaches, we shall yiff on the landing grounds…”
What appears to be the problem chap?
@Yoz I’ve been on Pixelfed for about a year; highly enjoyable. All the good of instagram without the celebrities and “influencers”. I also follow my Pixelfed account from my mastodon so I can boost to all of my mastodon followers as well.
I’ve never used Instagram before but I would like to start posting photos, however the vibe I’m getting from Pixelfed is this is a medium for photography art. I’m learning to facet gemstones and thought it would be cool to do photos of my gems that I cut to show my talent progress. Would that kind of non-photography art fit in on Pixelfed?
yes. I follow some guy (gal?) who does ceramic jewelry work. the only way to make the fediverse more interesting is by adding multiple perspectives, hobbies and interests. your content will undoubtedly be welcomed.
Thank you for the reassurance, I think I will share my hobby once I start! Maybe someday you’ll see a gemstone on your feed and recognize my name. 😄
@meggied90 I’m not a photographer in any sense; I literally post the same things I would have posted on instagram - restaurants, things I see on daily walks, family photos. I follow people who post their exercises/run routes, dogs, whatever. I got the same initial vibe you mentioned, but I assure you, it has been an extremely welcoming community to me.
Thank you! You’re soothing my nervousness quite a bit lol, I’ll take the plunge and start posting as soon as I have my equipment!
yes. I follow some guy (gal?) who does ceramic jewelry work. the only way to make the fediverse more interesting is by adding multiple perspectives, hobbies and interests. your content will undoubtedly be welcomed.
What is there to do? Is it just meme accounts or did your friends start using it too?
I mostly use instagram to interact with IRL friends and follow some meme accounts, so I’m curious what this app even looks like if my friends aren’t on it.
Unlike Lemmy, instagram and twitter rely heavily on their content creators.
No content creators, no followers, no traffic.
What are some good places to follow on Pixelfed? I haven’t had much luck finding accounts that appeal to me. I’d love to replace Instagram, but their algorithm is so damn good, and I’m struggling to find stuff that compares (which I’d expect since it doesn’t hold the same “influencer” weight and has a smaller community to begin with)
The only reason I use Instagram is because everyone I know IRL is on there.
Same with snapchat.
Same for me. Last time I posted there was eight years ago. I only keep it installed for the occasional message from an old friend.
I basically only use it to keep in contact with dealers because they somehow only want to use snapchat. It’s not even encrypted.
BuT tHE mEssAGEs DiSaPPEar! So it has to be secure, who needs encryption anyways?
And the frustrating part is that even WhatsApp has dissappearing messages. As much as I hate WhatsApp, it’s encrypted.
Kbin replaces Reddit for me.
Why not lemmy?
Kbin federates with lemmy so what’s it matter?
@float
@Yoz @activator90 Well, Lemmy.ml blocks kbin instances. Which is not cool, try to avoid that instance.
Different strokes!
Because when you search for a community on kbin, you can join communities from the search results. As far as I can tell, in Lemmy, you have to click into each community in order to join, so building my list of subscribed communities on Lemmy will take a while, especially considering all the server load problems Lemmy instances have been having with the influx of new users.
For me Lemmy is more accessible so i use it even that i know that kbin can not only see stuff from lemmy and kbin, but mastodon too (at least following people is possible)
So kbin has more features. As i was testing it there where some conversations about people switching for the better algorithm.
I think kbin is in general (with features) better but i like lemmy more.@activator90
@Yoz Long story…
