• EndlessApollo@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Israel hasn’t existed for a long ass time until the last century, shouldn’t that be evidence that Jewish people don’t belong there by your logic?

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      The Jews were going to end up somewhere after WW2. Their ancestral homeland won out. They also had the backing of major Western powers.

      Nations fall and nations rise, such is life. Don’t be on the wrong side of his . Jews all over the Middle East have been pushed out of their communities since Israel was founded. Sucks for them as well, once again don’t be on the wrong side of history.

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          No just real politik. Nations and people act in their own self interest and influence the world around them to the best of their abilities.

          Facism is just stupid.

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            An apartheid state committing a genocide to create an ethnostate is acceptable self-interest? This isn’t self-defence - particularly when Israel backed Hamas over the secular moderates to create the pretext for this. Netanyahu is getting Israelis killed by both Hamas and the IDF.

            I agree - Israel and the Nazis are stupid and monstrous, which is why I condemn both. What’s the material difference between the far-right, genocidal fascist ethnostates Israel and Nazi Germany as far as you’re concerned?

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              Well shut it down boys we’ve gone full circle. Israelis are killing themselves by killing the people responsible for…killing them.

              That is perhaps the most convoluted display of mental gymnastics I’ve ever seen.

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                You’ve seen the reports of the IDF killing shirtless Israeli hostages waving white flags and speaking Hebrew because they’re tripping over themselves to kill as many Palestinians as possible. The IDF themselves admitted to this.

                Israel funded Hamas over secular orgs (widely and credibility reported) to create the pretext for this genocide.

                Where’s the mental gymnastics, Jitler? While you’re at it, you can explain why the far right wing, genocidal fascist ethnostatists are bad when they’re Nazis, but not Israelis. Easy for me - refer to my description of both.

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        Israel is gonna wipe out everyone who was currently there, if you don’t like that you’re on the wrong side of history. Understood, all hail lord Netanyahu!

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          You don’t have to like it. The Palestinians could have made different decisions to prevent the current conflict (like don’t support terrorist organizations who will sneak attack civilians on a holiday as your method of government).