• Rusticus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    51·
    2 years ago

    The reality for those that have been through the collapse of Digg and now Reddit due to centralized corporate greed: “WE WONT GET FOOLED AGAIN!”

    Decentralized and federated is the future. Hopefully it will be a healthier version of social media.

    • admiralteal@kbin.social
      19·
      2 years ago

      For-profit is not the future. Commercial platforms aren’t the future. Advertising-funded services are all doomed to fail eventually Enshitification is inevitable when the fundamental purpose of the site is commerce.

      At least as it is now, fediverse is all cooperative and user-funded. That will be what protects it from going down the same road. Whether it can permanently survive that way I do not know. As soon as any major instance turns to advertising to pay the bills, the entire space is in deep and terrible danger.

    • sotolf@kbin.social
      5·
      2 years ago

      I hope the threadiverse will end up being as good an experience as mastodon, it really is a more healthy version of social media to me at least :)

    • sharksrtrans@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      uffda.

      I’ve been on reddit an embarrassingly long time. From before the rapist thread to violentacrez facilitating abhorrent things.

      Lemmy certainly seems less abhorrent and also a bit of a difficult learning curve.

      • mrmanager@lemmy.todayEnglish
        6·
        2 years ago

        Maybe the curve will keep the trolls out of here… It’s a bit like using Linux. Almost all people you interact with are nice and intelligent since you need to be a certain kind of personality to even be interested in learning it.

        When something becomes mainstream popular, corporations will stripmine the value and the experience will worsen significantly.

        • at_an_angle@lemmy.oneEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          I’m not necessarily nice, just not a dick.

          Not really intelligent, I just smash my head against the wall until things work.

          But fuck big corporations.

    • crilen@kbin.social
      3·
      2 years ago

      Fool me once,shame on you

      Fool me twice, shame on… Me

      Fool me thrice… you fooled me I can’t get fooled again!

    • Ertebolle@kbin.social
      2723·
      2 years ago

      They had one founder who actually believed in that, he left in 2007 and is now deceased. (RIP) But they’ve been milking it ever since.

      Huffman and Ohanian are both Y Combinator grifter types, Ohanian also happens to be married to Serena Williams yet rather than being content to live off his extremely wealthy wife’s money he’s spent the last few years touting crypto scams.

          • buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml
            9·
            2 years ago

            yeah it’s almost like the entire criminal legal system is fundamentally corrupt and only serves to enforce existing power structures.

            • EuphoricPenguin@normalcity.lifeEnglish
              9·
              2 years ago

              Further, copyright and the rest of the intellectual property lot only serve the current corporatist arrangement, helping keep large companies hard to compete with. It’s funny how people praise things like patents for “protecting” people, but it’s literally a government-granted monopoly on useful shit that would be cheap and accessible if people couldn’t pay for the rights to legally screw other people over.

            • arthur@lemmy.zip
              2·
              2 years ago

              The entire political & economic systems are built to serve and enforce existing power structures.*

          • pingveno@lemmy.mlEnglish
            1·
            2 years ago

            While I don’t think he should have been charged in the first place, the way people were doing calculations with the charges was funny math. They were adding up the maximum possible punishments, which is just not how things work for a first time non violent offender who had no financial interest. I wouldn’t be surprised if those “decades of prison time” turned into community service with some parole.

      • sadreality@kbin.social
        161·
        2 years ago

        Yeah Aaron swartz was internet believer. Fun y how people like him get targeted.

        Fuck MIT.

        • Obi@sopuli.xyz
          2·
          2 years ago

          Had that discussion a couple of times over there. Someone even pulled out the extract from the ToS, which is utterly ridiculous, basically suggests anything you post there is theirs do use as they please, which goes against all the copyright and data privacy laws I know about at least in the EU. It’s so silly, imagine posting your unreleased song for feedback on /r/wearethemusicmakers only for Reddit to publish it and claim the revenue.

          • eleitl@lemmy.ml
            4·
            2 years ago

            EU has been known to fine and collect on way bigger fish than Reddit. Enough users from the EU need to file failure to comply with deletion claims under the GDPR to their local enforcement agencies for it to happen.

  • curiosityLynx@kbin.social
    4·
    2 years ago

    Not saying it’s in any way realistic, just that that’s what it would take for me to consider maybe rejoining Reddit.

    • Jcb2016@kbin.social
      81·
      2 years ago

      I checked Reddit today. Of course from old reddit. It’s literally crap. Not cause I hate reddit now but the first 50 some frontpage subs just sucked. I’m glad I deleted my account

      • TWeaK@lemm.ee
        3·
        2 years ago

        Deleting you account removes your authority over it. The best course is to delete all the content from your profile, then supervise the empty space so you can lay the hammer down when they restore everyone’s data saying “your thoughts are ours, the terms and conditions say so” then you report them to an ICO and let the GDPR hammer come down on them.

          • Yoreo@lemmy.ml
            3·
            2 years ago

            I used PowerDeleteSuite to nuke all my comments and posts. Once you set it, it’s all automated. It also has an option to edit all your comments to say you left for lemmy (or whatever you feel like saying if you allow your comments to remain) if you’re inclined to do so.

            • hawkwind@lemmy.management
              1·
              2 years ago

              Nice! Worked like a charm. For anyone having issues with using a bookmark to run javascript, you can paste it into the developer console!

            • TWeaK@lemm.ee
              1·
              2 years ago

              It also doesn’t get everything. Reddit limits how much it shows in the lists PDS uses.

          • TWeaK@lemm.ee
            1·
            2 years ago

            PowerDeleteSuite is pretty easy, however it doesn’t get everything - reddit limits the number of comments you can see on your profile. For example, if you look at one of your older top comments, after PDS does its stuff it will get rid of the top comment, but it will leave behind any low karma replies underneath.

            Shreddit can take the GDPR csv files as an input, then it will go through and delete everything. You should use the github version rather than the website. However, you need the GDPR files to begin with, and it uses the API so it won’t work after 1 July. Reddit seem to have been stalling on delivering GDPR files for exactly this reason.

      • sharksrtrans@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        2·
        2 years ago

        Old.reddit on my mobile w/firefox still doesn’t have ads. I still don’t see avatars &… While I’m struggling dearly with figuring lemmy out I still dig it.