The group’s president, Kevin D. Roberts, made the comments in an interview on “The War Room,” the Trump adviser Stephen K. Bannon’s show on the network Real America’s Voice.
Mr. Roberts was discussing the Supreme Court’s ruling on Monday that presidents have substantial immunity from prosecution for what they do in office, a ruling that upended the criminal case against former President Donald J. Trump for his attempts to overturn the 2020 election and that removes a potential barrier to the most radical elements of his second-term agenda if he is elected again.
“We ought to be really encouraged by what happened yesterday, and in spite of all of the injustice — which of course friends and audience of this show, of our friend Steve, know — we are going to prevail,” Mr. Roberts said, alluding to Mr. Bannon’s imprisonment.
He went on to say that “the radical left” was “apoplectic” because “our side is winning” and said, “And so I come full circle in this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”
“Don’t fight back politically or we’ll kill you.”
Awesome! Totally reasonable and sane thing to say. I’m just hoping my country (Canada) can stay relatively unaffected by the brainrot that led to Project 2025.
I don’t know how resilient we will be against rising fascism considering the high cost of living and the recent grocery price increases.
Trudeau and the Liberals seem to be laying the red carpet for career whiner Poilievre to walk in to the leader position next year.
I’ve heard he is pretty bad but I don’t know exactly why (maybe he is not insane for all I know).
Anyone got a link handy that will highlight what he stands for?
Fascism is capitalism in decay. It will come to all capitalist societies unless they’re able to abolish capitalism.
ORGANIZE instead of spending all your energy deciding what fascist to vote. before its too late, you are running out of time.
socialism is the only way we ever got rid of fascism and good luck.
Russia would like to have a word, China too. Socialism is great. But not all socialism is created equal.
China and Russia don’t have collective ownership over the means of production. They’re not socialist. It’s like the main thing.
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Tell me what year exactly the Soviets or Chinese practiced the workers owning the means of production?
of course its not perfect. the point is stepping up.
china and russia saw the biggest improvements in quality of life in recorded history in their respective socialist eras.
if you keep rejecting the solution, surprise, you won’t get it.
I never said they didn’t. Marxist Leninism like capitalism helped everyone industrialize. It didn’t and will never help them achieve communism, much less stay socialist. It’s as flawed as capitalism.
you could literally, like, look this up instead of going all conservative on me.
if thats most people’s idea still, you guys wont stand a chance against fascim.
I’m gonna make a dictatorship, have fake elections and then point out how some democracies are not created equal.
See the problem?
I live in Alberta
The brain rot is already setting in, sorry to say =/
In Alberta’s case I’m more convinced every day that the very high number of American immigrants (historical and current) has something to do with it. If it stays within the province’s borders, I’m okay with that, but it is something to keep an eye on.
Would be nice if Canada had real leftist politicians and not people like Mulcair, Horwath, and Singh (sorry Jagmeet, I like you but you’re just not good enough). It frustrates me to no end that people in North America think the Liberals and Democrats are “the left.”
That might help actually, nothing brings people back to sanity faster than seeing their peers go insane and fail.
Realize before it’s too late that your existing ‘left’ wing at best does nothing to curb facism and at worst actively enables fascism and y’all may have a chance.
But what will probably happen is: only you and a few others will notice. The media will pull political discourse rightward and believers of said media will tirelessly shout you down. Perhaps you, like i will watch miserably as you and others slide into the sarlac pit of fascism that apparently only you can see.
If you do fall my yankee ass will at least have company.
Good luck
You gotta take an actual look at the bills Trudeau has passed. Fascism arrived 9 years ago. Police no longer require probable cause, free speech isn’t, he’s in bed with corporations and governs as an autocrat.
Sure, I know that part. Police are already allowed to interrogate you indefinitely and you’re only legally entitled to speak to a lawyer once (usually at the start, before you know how fucked you are).
I guess I meant something more directly in line with the US, due to the context of my original comment about following in their footsteps. But yeah, authoritarianism comes in many flavours. I suppose we have our own brand, given the rich history there.
You need to look at the whole list.
I’m a couple hours from your border and will be walking through the woods to claim asylum if shit gets bad.
This is a seditious threat that justifies preemptively striking in self-defense.
It’s a cold calculus but letting them kill someone first means the army has the moral and narrative high ground when the Army Rangers black bag these guys at 3 in the morning.
Yes I agree. Actions should always weigh more than words. We need them to put those words into action before it’s justified to act back.
So maybe we should be like: “bring it on”? Idk that’s probably not a good idea either.
We’re fast approaching the point at which there are no more bad ideas. But yeah for now, it’s best to try and prevent any major incident while not letting the authoritarians win. Countries do not come out the same way when either of those things happens. And the chance that it’s a change for the better is remote.
When it starts, they’re the ones who will be giving the Army Rangers the orders.
Eh, not exactly. That would be telegraphed literal years in advance as they would have to entirely rebuild the officer corps to be loyalists to them specifically. Right now the military leadership puts a lot of stock in the Constitution, so much so that the last time Trump tried to order them to go after BLM protestors, they not only refused the order, they then sent a memo to the entire force reminding them of the exact wording of their oath.
You’ve heard of Project 2025, right? Rebuilding the officer corps (and the entire rest of the government) to be loyalists is exactly what they’re planning to do.
Okay, and I’m telling you that’s not something you can do quickly. There’s a reason new dictators usually stand up a separate force.
Biden has already stated he won’t do that.
That would lose the high ground in a very important way. Calmer minds may yet prevail, if we are fortunate.
Textbook thug mentality. “I’m gonna take your shit, if you do anything about it then you’re forcing me to get violent.”
Said every abusive spouse/partner ever
“Don’t make me hit you”
“Look what you made me do.”
The goddamnedfascists will kill us all and the democrats only response will be to say “you should have voted harder!”.
Leftists fighting amongst themselves will contribute to the downfall of us all.
Democrats are not the left.
Lmao basically proving my point exactly.
And this is why they will win.
So, congrats on your purity test.
Not a purity test. Just a fact. Are democrats better than Republicans? Yes, that’s also a fact. But that does not change the correct definition of a political party. DEMOCRATS ARE NOT THE LEFT! Left of Republicans but very few actual left ideas make it to benefit the common person because democrats smother left ideas in the crib. Vote democrat (if living in deeply red states or swing states) but also protest unjust acts regardless of which party is currently in control. (even more so when it’s the party that you voted for.) I live in a deep blue state and vote green to try to pull the political spectrum left. I protest both sides for their crimes. I protest Biden for his direct support of genicide. I protest Trump for his many wrongs as well. We need to fight for the race to the top and not whomever clears the lowest bar possible.
I actually don’t think it’s appropriate to say Democrats are better than Republicans because the party distinction is artificial. They all subscribe to the same platform: reactionary capitalism, global domination, nuclear escalation and brinkmanship, containment of China, dominance of European economics, fossil fuel subsidies, oligopoly, finance imperialism, international and domestic usury, wage slavery, minoritarian rule, etc. They just have different constituencies and messaging strategies to achieve the same goals.
Democrats will tell you they’re not leftists.
Ask Joe Biden if he is a leftist, what do you think he’d say? Nanci Pelosi? Chuck Schemer? Hilary Clinton? Barack Obama?
The Democratic Party is a big tent party. There is far left, center left, center, and center right. And of course the left-right spectrum is always going to be reductive. Joe Biden has been observed to track the center of the party as a whole over time, so he would be a center left politician.
The rest of the big tent won’t call themselves leftists either. They’ll say they’re “”“progressive”“” instead.
And if the progressives get too uppity then AIPAC or some other rightist faction will get rid of them.
The democratic party in the USA has far left and centre left members? Do you have proof of that statement? I don’t understand how you can call Joe Biden centre left, in as far as he has the mental capacity to have an opinion, it’s the opinion that people should die so he can grow wealthier. He’s actively ordering a genocide.
How do I label my political ideas without someone calling other groups with the same label?
Playing with words doesn’t change the reality that my ideas are not what DNC believes.
Evil will win because they are willing to do evil and good won’t do evil?
I mean I guess yeah, that’s usually how evil prevails.
Why are you lying? It’s the appeasement-minded liberals that are fucking us all over.
It’s both. Appeasement never works. And ideology over solidarity leads to no accomplishments.
Death to the democrats, death to the settlers, death to Amerika.
The same way that the Ukraine war could be bloodless if Ukrainians allowed it to be? Absurd 🙄
What a moronic comparison. No, it’s more like how the Maidan revolution that ushered in the USA’s chosen president and made the Right Sector and other far-right groups ascendant was (mostly bloodless) when they stormed the capital with guns and forced the sitting administration to flee into exile.
And when some people protested the coup, they burned them alive in Odessa. THIS is the correct comparison with what’s in the OP.
Ironically I think they would take Russia’s side here too. They think might is right.
There is no winning cause they will only shut up if they are beaten by violence, something that their opposition doesn’t want to resort to.
The revolution they want isnt going to happen even with copious amounts of blood sacrifice. But hey if you want to bleed out for the cause wecan accommodate
Headline should read, Heritage Foundation threatens bloodshed.
This is like reporting that a mob boss said it’d be terrible if something happened to your family.
I know Democrats are stuck with a shit candidate right now that supports an apartheid state currently committing genocide. And I know they’re fully exploiting the fact that their opponent is Mussolini 2.0.
I know they’re very critical of the current candidate, but what would they rather have? A psychopath extreme right dictator in charge of the world largest surveillance agencies, military force and nuclear arsenal, as well as one of the world’s leading economy and biggest influence on the planet? Or a relatively sensible paraissent whose only flaw right now is supporting one wrong nation and whose position can potentially be changed on the matter?
Why is this the only choice? Why has the DNC failed at every possible opportunity to build a better political party that can actually win and use those wins to advance an agenda that reduces the power of the reactionary right?
When it is framed this way, the false dichotomy falls away. The DNC is reactionary and their policies outcomes are predominantly indistinguishable from the right’s policy outcomes. They applaud themselves for compromising with the right and they constantly demonize and disempower the left.
The only conclusion we can come to is that the Democrats are in fact allies of the Republicans, but now we need evidence.
The debates are organized, planned, and operated by a coalition of the two parties who work closely together to create the theater we see. The Democrats refused to touch the filibuster to do anything to advance their agenda but worked with Republicans to bypass it easily to pass the budget. The Democrats currently hold executive office and the Republican supreme court gave the president unlimited power to discharge duties and instead of doing anything with that power the DNC candidate said they will not use the power, a clear signal to the RNC power structure to proceed without fear.
I don’t know how much more evidence we need, how many more observations we need, how many more cops need to kill black people while getting more funding and more equipment, how many more mass murders we need the military to commit, how much more environmental devastation we need to see before we understand that both parties are not equivalent but rather we don’t have two parties. We have one party with two PR firms running damage control, consent manufacture, and storytelling to advance one singular agenda.
Stop buying this bullshit that one candidate is the harm reduction candidate. Both candidates are put up by the same power structure and electing either of them is a win for that power structure against the people. The only win for the people is total destruction of both “parties”.
whose only flaw right now is supporting one wrong nation
you can’t seriously believe this is true right
whose only flaw right now is supporting one wrong nation
'94 Crime Bill, eulogy of Strom Thurmond, Cop City, continuity of the 1033 Program, continuity of for-profit carceral slavery, (if you’re not for carceral abolition, you are party and accomplice to slavemasters, and John Brown would’ve shot you) continuity of the southern border concentration camps, continuity of the southern border wall construction, destruction of Nordstream, mass-arrests of protestors, selling out our infrastructure and educational services to arm two different genocidal vassal states, one of which is blatantly illegitimate and carrying out literal Manifest Destiny on their targets; I could go on all night peckerwood
Do you think Biden will change his mind on Israel slaughtering Palestinians when the death toll number doubles or triples?
His support team will make him have a nap before his next debate so it will go his sundowning will be more masked and the media will manufacture consent as always to make it seem like it is too late to run literally anyone else.
Kamala sucks but she would look like a spring chicken compared to Trump standing next to her spouting ridiculous likely misogynistic bullshit in a debate.
You can criticize Biden, and you would be right. But I’m asking the question again. What would you rather have?
Complete destruction of the American system
If a Democracy dies because people weren’t willing to vote for Genocide, did a Democracy die?
I hear what you’re saying, but I’m pretty sure Trump will support genocide way more than Biden has.
Yes, it’s absurd that this is what things have come to, but I’ll still be supporting the lesser of the two evils.
So genocide isn’t a dealbreaker for you. You will not scrub the blood off your hands; and you deserve to collapse with the country when it comes.
Are you sure you considered Linkerbaan’s position fully? If you are forced to choose evil, you don’t have a choice, you are forced.
If you don’t think you’re being forced, then you’re choosing to choose evil.
If you are being forced, then what does your choice matter?Trump doing some things in the future isn’t why your country and countrymen are onboard with genocide now and in the past.
What would you rather have?
A non-fascist option. Abortion access, housing, not the world’s highest incarceration rate (which Jim Crow Joe is directly, but not solely, responsible for.) etc.
You’re arguing from a false premise.
There’s a lot of things I’d rather have, but we’re not dealing in fantasy. What non-fascist options exist right now, or could reasonably be created before this year’s election?
You’re arguing from the premise that fascism is the only option and anything else is “fantasy”. Is that what you really believe?
I was promised riots and unrest when Roe V Wade was overturned and there was crickets instead. What are you going to do in November after the democrats get Trump elected? Do before to prevent that current inevitability?
So if you expect there won’t be any protest and that people at just doing to fold over (like what happened in Italy or Germany) then what do you think is the best option???
THERE IS NO THIRD OPTION.
“THERE IS NO THIRD OPTION” because you accept the options that you are given and try to convince others that they are acceptable options. They are not, stop deluding yourself.
People are “just going to fold over” because you keep telling them to! Stop doing the fascist’s work, there are always other options but the fewer people who understand that means that more force per person is required to apply the needed pressure to make those options a reality.
I’d rather have every single person for whom genocide is a negotiable suffering. I do not wish for a better world for settler-amerikans.
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The Convention hasn’t happened yet. He can still be replaced. We aren’t stuck!
“I am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I now think, vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed it might be done.” – John Brown
They can fuck around and find out. I’m ticking down the days til I’ve got nothing to lose.
I want blood. Don’t care whose it is just so long as some of it is theirs
I dunno, rob a blood bank, mebbe?
Just offer the junkies more than the plasma place.
YOU LOST THE FIRST TIME, JUST LIKE THE GERMANS, TAKE THE HINT
Narrator:it wasn’t
They at least demonstrate they know there’s only a threat against them from the left.
