New study shows that the default apps collect data even when supposedly disabled, and this is hard to switch off

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    6 months ago

    Wow, how incredibly annoying. They discuss “the proper way” to protect your privacy throughout the entire article, clearly making it known that the researchers had the process and we’re seeing if people could figure it out and then…they don’t share it.

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    6 months ago

    but but the apple fanboys told me apple’s proprietary ecosystem is somehow not a privacy nightmare!

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    6 months ago

    *privacy from everyone except us, which conveniently makes our ad revenue line go up.

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    6 months ago

    Thanks to grapheneos, I don’t have to worry about such things 🥳

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      6 months ago

      GrapheneOS + Linux Is the only way to truly have digital privacy.

      Most people think iPhone + Mac is. So, so wrong.

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        6 months ago

        What do you think about Pinephones? I’m thinking about buying one as my next phone.

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          Maybe not quite ready for the general public yet, but I hear PureOS runs quite nicely and, if you can make it work, it could be a good idea.

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          Google services are unfortunately pretty important to most users day to day life. I have tried degoogled android but have always come back to graphene.

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            How is degoogled Android?

            I have a spare phone I could try to degoogle but I keep thinking how many apps require GSF and I don’t think I’d get very far like that.

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              It feels fine, if you don’t use google apps you wouldn’t notice a difference. But the last time I seriously tried using it as a daily driver was probably three years ago though. MicroG is ok but just can’t compare to the sandboxed gapps in graphene when it comes to compatibility.

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        Pixel phones completely stock are a privacy nightmare, but are ironically the most secure phones on a hardware level, which is why GrapheneOS devs chose them.

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    people don’t even think about apple, when talking about data privacy. they look google, amazon and facebook differently than apple.

    i’m using an iphone and i had to pay for icloud storage for like a year or two. than, i bought a pc with 2tb ssd and wanted to download all of my data from icloud and delete my subscription. downloading was no problem since you can request all of your data, problem was my 128gb data was not sorted and i had to delete all of my photos by hand from icloud.

    i’m thinking about buying a google pixel 7a, since it’s cheap and i don’t need much more, and use graphene os with it. i can return my iphone when purchasing and 7a is gonna cost something like €100-200

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        they obviously not on the same level as google and meta, and media writes often about apple not wanting to unlock a criminal’s iphone in a fbi case.

        average user just knows that apple doesn’t give your data to 3rd party, nobody thinks about apple being the bad one here.

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          apple not wanting to unlock a criminal’s iphone in a fbi case.

          They couldn’t unlock it. If they could, or if the criminal had used iCloud backup, they’d have done it instantly.

          What the FBI wanted was for Apple to make a “rooted” iOS version and update the phone with it, and that version would give them access to everything on it.

          Apple didn’t want to do it because that iOS version could be used to get into any iPhone and it would’ve destroyed their image with their customers. Also, legally they could not be compelled to make a break-in tool.

          Anyway, it was all for their own protection not for the principle of privacy.

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      I wanted to transfer video from an iPhone to PC. I usually back-up my Android device which has neat file structure and folder names. Viola iPhone folder naming is shit. I had to use “modified by time” to get the thing i wanted. There were so many folders with numbers.

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    This is why nothing with the Apple logo passes through the threshold of my home; not even their bullshit assed phones. If I’m working on degoogling myself, why in the fuck would I want to regoogle myself through another logo?