• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    Reminder that the Red Sea attacks have still resulted in zero casualties. In response, the US-UK has killed 22 fighters.

    Disrupting trade is punishable by death.

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        It’s a gigachad move and the only morally correct thing to do when they’re supplying a genocide.

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          But they’re not just attacking ships supplying aid to Israel. They are attacking whatever passes by them. If it was to support Gaza, why would they have attacked a clearly marked Chinese ship?

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            attacked a clearly marked Chinese ship

            Pretty sure they stopped attacking Chinese and Russian ships since they stopped supplying “israel” and co. through the Red Sea after the Yemeni gov told them to. There were a few misfires after that but for the most part they’re left alone.

            Hell, a br*tish ship misqueraded as a Chinese ship a few days ago to avoid being attacked. Probably why Yemen is ending up hitting a few Chinese ships too.

            Regardless, China has condemned the US and UK’s bombing of Yemen. As anyone with a hint of morals should.

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                Yeah western countries and their ships should probably consider not supplying or supporting the genocide.

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                    This idiot would’ve told Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising to not attack the nazis if they don’t want to be retaliated against.

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            I’d say supporting a genocidal colony with billions of dollars instead of your own country’s healthcare and education is about the most “betacuck” thing you can do lmao

            Also, what are you, a child?

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            Bengalis, Cubans, Vietnamese, etc shouldn’t have fought against their oppressors and liberated their nations then? Cuz killing people is wrong and two wrongs don’t make a right ig?

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              Holy hell. What a massive assumption.

              I’ve never seen someone try and treat the world as so black and white. Yikes.

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                Do you have an actual response or just the black and white take that “two wrongs don’t make a right”?

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                  You seem to be conflating me condemning Houthi attacks on unarmed vessels as supporting Israel.

                  It is clear you only think in black and white. Especially if you’re calling Houthi gigachads, you might want to look into who you’re supporting.

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                    I’m supporting those trying to stop an active genocide. Unlike you apparently.

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            This is no different from sanctions if you bother to think about it. Sure it’s more scary, but they aren’t killing people. That should count for something. They’re just limited by their material conditions and doing whatever they can to stop the genocide.

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      Disrupting trade is punishable by death.

      At this scale? Yes. Fucking up global trade at this level hurts people all over the planet. The downstream pain reaches into millions of households.

      And if that hurt isn’t enough for you, it’s clearly terrorism. And your plan is to let it stand because there haven’t been any deaths?

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        Damn those ships and countries should probably consider not supplying a genocide then.

        Fucking up global trade at this level hurts people all over the planet

        That’s from the capitalist class hoarding all the wealth. We have more than enough resources to meet everyone’s needs otherwise. Know who to blame and direct your frustration at.

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        My plan is to force Israel to stop the genocide.

        And they aren’t shutting down all global trade. Just ships going to or from Israel. Sanctions, essentially.

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      So is being gay if you’re in Yemen. I can’t say i have any sympathy for them. If you attack passing ships you can’t complain about retaliation.

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        Prevents poor country from progressing socially or economically through wars and genocides for decades

        Complains about their lack of social progress

        Bruh.

        If you attack passing ships you can’t complain about retaliation

        If you commit and support a fucking genocide you can’t complain about having your supplies blocked. Would you not support blocking supplies to nazi Germany either?

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        >wave a rainbow flag while murdering Muslim children by the thousands

        “But why do Muslims hate gay people???”

        Israel wrapped itself in a rainbow flag to attract liberal support, but they’re a homophobic society. They just do it for propaganda purposes; it tricks idiots into thinking Israel is good and stokes the fires of blowback across the Muslim world.

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      Picking a fight with a superpower is generally a poor idea. Killing military members - even in Jordan - might be considered a bit beyond mere commerce.

      Edit: I did misremember the attackers in Jordan and thought that was part of the Houthi organization. The Houthi’s are attacking US warship(s) in the area, but haven’t directly killed an US service members that we know of/yet. The Jordan attack was (now that I’ve checked again) by one of the groups operating under the Islamic Resistance in Iraq.

      My only defense here is that all of these attacks on US and UK vessels (merchant and military) are in retribution for the US support of Israel. And, yes, there are a lot of groups backed by Iran and Iraq who are using the Israel-Hamas/Israel destruction of Gaza as an excuse to lash out at Western powers who (generally) provide support to Israel. My apologies for the error.

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          I’ve edited my post for accuracy, it was genuinely an honest mis-remembering of the attack; thank you for the clarification.

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        The US helped Saudi Arabia bomb the shit out of Yemen for a long time (search). I’m not properly educated about this myself but there are war crimes, starvation, a lot of shit. I mean you can’t keep up. But to them, enforcing sanctions against Israel creates local support, otherwise they are a pretty bad Islamist regime. The Houthis are also not proxys of Iran. So US bombing them probably helps them too internally.

        But there is so much shit going on that it’s hard to keep up.