• Bernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.works
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    Although the basic design of the experiment has been used in developmental research since the late 1960s, related research traditionally focused solely on infant activity, treating infant and environment as separate entities

    That seems like an obvious thing not to do to a layman. Why did that persist for so long?

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      Wetern science is only now becoming aware of egolessness consciousness, through exposure to eastern meditation practices (Buddhism stresses this restful state of consciousness also pointed to in the article) and classical psychedelics used by indigenous peoples for 1000s of years (which were outlawed in the 60s and are only now being taken seriously again).

      In other words, because we mostly (and mistakenly) associate consciousness with ego, which doesn’t develop until adolescents.

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        Depends on your interpretation of recent.

        There was research published along these lines since the 50’s and a large surge in the 80s.

        It’s back in vogue again now and everyone likes their research to be paradigm changing.

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          I hear you.

          I was taking a stab at why we never bothered to look for consciousness in babies interactions with the environment before. It does seem an obvious place to look now but considering half of us are still caught on I think there fore I am, I can see why they never bothered to look here.

          In Buddhism the ego is sort of a filter of consciousness. Rick Doblin from MAPs said in a podcast I was listening to recently that babies are in the psychedelic state, like egolessness from 5-meo and shit. And that base structure is still there. So it’s the base human experience and arises with the environment and then we filter everything through the ego. Including our questions about consciousness itself right? Because it’s our lived experience so we’re looking through something that’s similar.