Hey everyone,
I am looking for an alternative for OneNote for Linux. A clone would be perfect, the interface of it and the ability to paste pictures into a very wide notes field is great. Please help me!
Check out Obsidian! The canvas feature is very similar to onenote snd obsidian in general is the best notwtaking app/ personal knowledge management system in existence
Obsidians great! I do wish it was open-source though :(
I switched to Obsidian not too long ago.
For my needs, Joplin was a good open source alternative.
Between the two I went with Obsidian because, while the apps are closed-source, the data is accessible. All your notes are just stored in plaintext (with markdown) as simple files in a directory structure.
Joplin, in contrast, uses a SQLite database which adds a layer of complexity.
This was one of the main selling features for me (before I tried it and experienced all the other killer features). I’ve experienced a bad case of vendor-lock before where it was hell to export my data. So having it all available in plain text at all times is really reassuring.
There is Logseq! https://logseq.com/
Obsidian is what I use mostly, it syncs great with syncthing across all my devices. It doesn’t have drawing support, so whenever I need to doodle something I end up in samsung notes again.
The Excalidraw plugin may do the trick.
Can you use that with a tablet to make hand written notes?
You can, but there is no form of exporting your handwritten notes. There’s also sort of a tendency to “bend” what you’ve just written a bit after you lift your stylus. Like it’s vectorizing and slightly correcting the path you just drew.
I have had moderate success using the built-in Scribble feature to convey my handwriting into text in the main editor. It’s not super great but is serviceable. It’s real opinionated about when and where new paragraphs should appear.
Ah, if Obsidian would’ve supported hand written notes using a stylus or something, I would’ve switched instantly. It’s sad cause I don’t want to keep using Samsung Notes tbh, but it feels like my best option so far.
You can export excalidraw files as images or svgs. My main issue has been subpar support for Samsung pens, which is in part due to Samsung requiring an SDK to detect button presses or gestures… which means hitting the toolbar button to erase stuff
It tends freeze and mess up your writing when it autosaves. Not much of an issue if you set it to every 5 minutes, but annoying at the 15 second default.
Lastly, large drawings have performance issues. A few “pages” of notes and you can start to see the renderer struggle to track your pen correctly.
Tbh I’m probably just going to use another app and export images into my obsidian repo.
There is an open source alternative called Logseq https://logseq.com/
Obsidian is hella based
Very much this. Obsidian has a learning curve. It needs more than a day to get a feel for.
@Stronk +1 for Obsidian! I love it. It’s definitely different than OneNote. Notion may actually be a better fit for you, but I encourage everyone to check out Obsidian just to see if it’s for you! Excellent software.
As your description is rather short and does not really restrict the “recommendation space”, I’ll start the round of recommendations with Joplin
Joplin also has a great web-clipper through a companion addon in Firefox (and I assume also Chromium)
Joplin is great in many ways, and I do use it to some degree, but there’s a few things that irks me.
- Notes and attachments being stored in a database and referenced by a cryptic UID instead of plain files with human readable names makes integration with other apps impossible. And it’s bad for data portability
- On Android I’ve never been able to get it to background sync. I need to keep Joplin in the foreground. The second I switch to another app it stops syncing
- On sync conflicts it’ll just use the newest note as master and overwrite older changes. Luckily if you realise it happened you can use the history feature to get back lost changes. Typical scenario for me is to add much more stuff to a shopping list while on desktop. 30minutes later open the app on Android while shopping to tick off an item. Realize all the recently added items from desktop are gone to the ether (stored in history on the desktop and other synced devices)
Hopefully these sync issues are some rare bug for me. I’ve tried all the usual “battery saving” tricks in android, but still Joplin will not background sync. Other apps like DavX5 sync fine. Are anybody else here having luck with Joplin on mobile?
As far as I know it’s a known limitation. Joplin just does not have background sync. It’s ok for my use case but the initial sync can take a long time depending on your database size. Other than that, I’m happy with Joplin.
I believe you can export joplin notebooks in several different widely compatible file types. So you have full portability, although perhaps not full interoperability (I use it in an encrypted form anyway so I couldn’t integrate any other apps).
Sync conflicts send the replaced version to a dedicated conflicts notebook, in my experience.
I had to stop using it when it nuked one of my notebooks due to a conflict. I’m still not sure exactly what caused it; but I had to go into the DB, reassign the pages that were not completely deleted (orphaned?) to a new notebook, and cry about the few that weren’t recoverable.
Do you use Joplin? I’ve heard about it a ton but I can’t figure out when I’d ever use it. I use Bookstack for a Wiki and then I have an empty (besides myself) Matrix room that I use for quick notes or something I need to send from my phone to a different device. And then I also have Nextcloud and could just use docs there. I love self hosting open source apps but I struggle to see how often I’d use Joplin (or any note app) over other options. I’m hoping you or somebody can finally make something click for me.
I tried it once but didn’t see the use of it, but I saw it recommended often and I can see why, because it is nice to sync notes with your phone, if you need it there. I personally am a fan of the suckless/KISS mentality and just use syncthing to sync my plain markdown notes between devices.
one thing that annoyed me, though, was that the markdown editor in joplin always inserted some weird blank lines or spacings. That might not be relevant or even obvious for someone who just uses the rich text formatting editor, but I mostly used the plain text editor and eventually asked myself what joplin is basically useful for in my use case, as I already had syncthing in place and I could just use any plain text editor of my choice. So for me the benefit of hierarchically structuring my notes was not worth the extra program on my computer/phone, especially considering that syncthing and vim/codium are programs specifically created for the use case that joplin tries to merge into a single product. But I might be an extreme case, as I have also replaced Nextcloud with Filebrowser and Syncthing, so take my words with a grain of salt.
TLDR: Joplin is a great program and I can recommend it, it is just not suited for fans of the KISS mentality.
I tried Joplin, but found it more cumbersome than just directly using markdown files, and rw them with Markor on Android. On Linux, I will just directly rw the markdown files in vim, or vscode if I want to get fancy.
amen, bro!
I primarily have Joplin for my phone. I do have it on my computer just so I can edit stuff that I want on my phone. I sync it between all of my devices via my Nextcloud instance. Works great.
I used Joplin on Windows and iPhone - syncing (encrypted) using a OneDrive account. So far working well.
I selfhost my Joplin server and use the clients on my Linux desktop, my windows laptop, iphone and Android. It is definitely one of my favorite selfhosted apps. To prevent any issues with sync, the first thing I do when I open the app is to click the Sync button and do the same when I close the app at the end of the day. This way I ensure that I am always working with the latest version. It has not failed me so far, considering I am a very heavy user and have quite a few notes running at any given day.
And I’m another who self hosts Joplin. My wife and I use it on our desktops and mobile devices. We specifically switched to it from One Note and it’s been perfect for our use!
I used it extensively as I was writing (I’m an author) to make notes about things I needed to go back and correct, or an idea to incorporate, etc.
@Big_Lanids @foss Is there a hosted version somewhere?
Interesting I didn’t know you could even host a server for it. I use Joplin with local files and nextcloud to sync them I’ll have to check that out
you can sync them with dav on nextcloud, then joplin takes care of pushing and pulling but the files are on nextcloud
I use Joplin and sync the notes between devices (including Android) with Syncthing. There’s lots of other options for syncing, but I already had Syncthing set up and liked it
Joplin is amazing. I think I have it syncing through OneDrive (I don’t use OneDrive or any Microsoft products so I’m not sure why I did that), but it has so many options to sync using things you may already use
I use the same setup: Joplin and SyncThing. Works well on my macbook and windows boxen.
Standard Notes is the downright best notes software, highly recommend it as a OneNote alt!
is that FOSS?
Yep, also encrypted and cross platform too!
+1 for Standard Notes it’s brilliant!
I use it and pay for premium, but I do miss the simple pasting of images inline like with OneNote 😔
I would suggest Logseq. It’s excellent and a step up from One Note IMHO.
I’m using it both for notes at work (software development) as well as a separate graph for my own thoughts, ideas, todos, pretty much everything. Using Syncthing to sync my graphs between devices works pretty well, though it’s had a bit of a learning curve in getting it set up.
@IuseArchbtw I switched to Zettlr a few years ago and never looked back https://zettlr.com/ there are tons of markdown apps in other platforms that can give you the cross-platform feel but for desktop this is it for me
Meanwhile here’s me still using Google Keep…
Hopefully we get some warning signs before it ends up in the Google Graveyard.
It does manage copy / paste of images fairly well.
Hopefully we get some warning signs before it ends up in the Google Graveyard.
The probability of that happening just barely hovers above zero.
Over a decade later, I’m still bitter about how they unceremoniously dumped Google Reader’s corpse into the ground with effectively no notice.
Google play music was the last straw for me. I will never depend on them for a service ever again. They just aren’t reliable.
I switched to OneNote a few years ago and was going crazy trying to find a bunch of notes I took … turns out they were all in Keep happily noting away.
Keep was great but I find the OneNote structure and flexibility a bit more useful.
Oh same, I use Google keep for personal organisation and one note for actual note taking on my tablet. Google keep has an unofficial API that you can use to script it. I wish there was an open source alternative to it though tbf. I honestly don’t understand where Google derives profit from it is it’s just short incongruous scraps of text
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Xournal++
I wasn’t aware of that one, thanks! Bummer though, the mobile port doesn’t seem to have been updated for a while :/
I wasn’t even aware there was a mobile port, I use it on a 2-in-1 laptop with a stylus
Joplin is great but Obsidian is definitely worth checking out. You can find both as flatpaks.
Big fan of Obsidian. Especially for written notes. If you are working with a lot of images I’d give its canvas feature a try. I’m not using it personally, but I think it might fit the bill.
I can say I’ve never heard of any of these recommended.
Standard Notes: https://standardnotes.com
Obsidian: https://obsidian.md/
Xournal++: https://xournalpp.github.io/
They all look great! Checking these out later!
+1 for Xournalpp. I use it every day for tablet PC notes.
Because nobody mentioned it already I want to bring Notesnook in.
It is very privacy friendly, OpenSource and cross platform. Just if you want to sync there is no self hosted solution yet.
I’ve been using Notesnook for nearly a year and I’m really happy with it as well. Very feature-rich and easy to use despite a focus on security. I had a scare recently with an important note seemingly disappearing, and I was saved thanks to a really nicely implemented note history functionality that I didn’t even know existed.
I will say that some of the design decisions can be a bit confusing, so it’s worth testing it out before buying. Even a year in I find myself a bit thrown off by how exactly the relationships between notebooks, topics, tags, etc are expected to work.
If you use vscode, the foam extension is great!
Thank you! Trying it out now and it’s amazing.
Zim Desktop Wiki: https://zim-wiki.org/
It’s good for creating interconnected articles on your desktop. No mobile version though, so it’s more of a knowledge base that a notes app.
Attachments and links to external files work beautifully. WYSIWYG editor, all articles stores as plain text files with zim wiki syntax, attachments are plain files in folders
Technically OneNote online in office 365 is also an option
Btw no built in sync, but since it’s all just plain files in folders syncing works beautifully with Own loud/Nextcloud
There is built-in git versioning though, though I’m not sure when you’d use that for personal use
I’d try anytype too, it’s a lot of stuff and almost out of beta. It seems pretty good
