• GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Dude, setting aside what we think of Hamas, I wasn’t talking about Hamas, I was talking about people in America protesting against genocide being branded as terrorist sympathizers.

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      2 months ago

      Are you not aware that the specific protestors she was responding to were actually flying Hamas flag and spray painting pro-Hamas messages on statues and things. It was bad.

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        2 months ago

        Aside from the fact that she’s clearly using it as an opportunity to make it look like the entire protest (and perhaps all pro-Palestine protest) took such a tact

        pro-Hamas messages

        If you mean “From the river to the sea” I swear to God

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            That’s interesting. I clearly hadn’t been giving those protestors enough credit, but the corollary of that is that Kamala, while an absolute zionist bastard, was still generalizing but not nearly as aggressively as I thought (there are definitely a bunch of triangles). I underestimated the ability of westerners to cut through zionist concern-trolling, even if not all present can.

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                I said “setting aside what we think of Hamas” for a reason, if that helps you interpret my meaning, I’m just doing a bad job managing both impulsively responding after the conversation ran its course and also avoiding getting into a useless dispute about the main force of military resistance to an ongoing genocide.

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                  2 months ago

                  Kamala herself doesn’t give a shit about Zionism except for what it provides to her campaign in the form of money.

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                    I find it unfathomable how someone can come to that of all conclusions. Obviously she doesn’t have a commitment to it religiously or out of ethnic supremacy, but it’s just as obvious that she’s interested in being the slay kween on top of the bloodiest empire in history, and so she knows it behooves her to take care of all of its apparati for maintaining power.

                    When you’re a top-level politician like Kamala is failing-up into being, Israel’s appeal to you in not the chump change from AIPAC (not that you don’t take that too), it’s Israel’s actual use, the reason that AIPAC is allowed to exist when virtually no other foreign lobby is, that being that it spreads chaos and destruction among America’s enemies in the Middle East.

                    The idea that AIPAC effectively authored and single-handedly perpetuates zionism in the US political establishment is both antisemitic and just plain stupid. Where do you think they got the money from?! It didn’t just spring from Palestinian blood or from being Jewish or whatever, that money comes from the US initially! Or by proxy from US resources. The money AIPAC has is circling back to the US like in a money-laundering scheme.