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    I use an add blocker to such an extent im horrified every time I’m on an unfamiliar device and have to deal with copious adds.

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      I’m to the point that if whatever I’m watching/doing pops an ad at me, I reflexively make a snap judgement on whether I want to continue watching doing whatever it is. Often the answer is ‘no’ and I’ll just bail entirely.

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      Basically me every time I open a website on my work laptop, where I cannot add browser extensions because of IT policies.

      I honestly cannot fathom why large companies don’t include at least simple adblockers in their browser configurations. I don’t even need to block youtube ads, the banners on stackoverflow are bass enough). Would probably save fairly significant amounts of bandwidth, too.

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        because then things would just shut down… The poor suckers that don’t use adblockers are what pay the bandwidth and hosting costs for those of us that do. If it becomes the default, things would either shutdown or go paywall.

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    I remember life without adblockers. Back when they were not needed, because web sited did not have ads.

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      did you use the internet in '92 or something? because even in mid to late 90s the ads were so cancerous that pop-up blocking eventually became a standard feature of browsers before ad blockers were even a thing.

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        My first contact with the web (I had been in the internet for some time already) was when a collegue at university told me about the Arena browser, and this new system, “like Gopher, but with Hypertext and pictures”. And yes, I’ve seen the CERN website, served from Tim Barners-Lee’s NeXT cube, too.

        So yes, I knew the web before there were ads, the internet when services were normally open to all sides, and when people on the internet that were actually much smarter than average.

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        Seriously. Someone never clicked on the “you are an idiot” popup that auto-played music, moved around the screen, prevented task manager from opening and cloned itself if it was closed.

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        Up to early 00’ most webs didn’t really have many ads. Some may have abusive advertisement but it wasn’t everywhere like now.

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        The installers for every major software company riddled every single computer with adware. And you needed a compsci degree to get rid of it. Weren’t there lawsuits over that shit, that led to regulations? I remember that happening. It’s not like they were going to stop doing that of their own accord.

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        At least those were a) just banner ads and b) not as annoying as modern JS/HTML5/popup/popover ads are. You just scrolled down a few pixel, and had 100% information.

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          Yes we had 3 more years where numerous other variants of things like pop-up/under ads, ads that ran malicious java script, infinitely self-replicating pop-ups, ads that instantly played music at full volume, ads that kept opening themselves again as you closed them, and so on.

          Basically, the time when ads were not super intrusive, on the web, was a fleeting time, in its infancy. Didn’t even make it 6 years before ad blockers were required to safely use the web.

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      I remember when I first noticed YouTube had ads. They’ve had them a while but before they got ads I had installed an ad blocker. So when I was setting up a new laptop and just testing if everything worked I loaded up a YouTube video and suddenly there was a pre roll playing and I wondered “What the fuck is this … Ah yes still need to install an ad blocker”

      Edit: Toni? Who the fuck is he? ;)

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    Camara zooms out revealing a third guy looking down into his face youtube requiring a Webcam so they can track your eyes

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      I’m convinced Mark Zuckerberg had a wet dream about pupil tracking when he bought Oculus.

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          Most of the tech billionare’s ideas comes from watching a dystopian 80s scifi and saying “let’s do this but where I’m the bad guy.”

          Show me one thing Elon ever came up with that isn’t in Total Recall.

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            Show me one thing Elon ever came up with that isn’t in Total Recall.

            Musk is trash, but to be fair, Philip K. Dick pretty much invented like 90% of popular, modern sci-fi tropes.

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        im convinced his business model if AR/VR ever takes off will involve pupil tracking yes

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    After going nuclear against ad blockers, at some point google is going to introduce a new “feature” where YouTube uses AI with your phone’s camera to automatically pause videos when you look away from your phone.

    Then they’ll make it so you have to buy a subscription to turn it off during ads.

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      writers of black mirror’s 15 million merits laughing crying maniacally in the distance

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      Me if that happens:

      jk, i barely use YT as it is. I’m waiting for the YT ToS update that causes a mass migration to peertube

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          I would say there’s been a mass migration from Twitter to Mastodon and from Reddit to Lemmy. The current numbers are still a small fraction of the original services, but the federated services have reached a critical mass where they now offer comparable value. YouTube hasn’t been ubiquitous for that long and it’s already pretty enshittified. I see a lot of people who are fed up with it and looking for an alternative. The peertube platform is there, I think with more people and content and it’ll join the ranks.

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        Tbh I figured they have bots crawling social media to find out what people are using to avoid their annoying, intrusive, abusive practices and use that to get ever more obnoxious.

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    I remembered a scene of a black mirror episode: if the person looked away the ads will stop until the person watch it again and it’s unavoidable … I wonder if this will be a reality one day

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      Yes, the technology to do this is here, and they’re just waiting for the consumer to be able to put up with it.

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        This is why I just set up a media server at home.

        It’s mine, you can’t pump it full of ads. All the media is mine and those companies can go fuck themselves.

        Sail those seas folks

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        Reading your reply made me think … it’s possible that implying such technology might help rising Free & Open Source culture more … given that FOSS apps are usually ad-free and with no tracking

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          Honestly the best thing about FOSS is that money isn’t driving all the decisions. Most open-source projects are built because the dev just wants to build something cool or useful, or they’re trying to solve specific problems. Most individual devs don’t really care if their user count goes up every quarter.
          Personally I’ve been maintaining a chrome extension for about 10 years, and it’s sat happily with about 7000 users that entire time. I built it because I wanted to use it, and I’ve declined several offers to buy the extension and monetize it.

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              It’s an extension that makes GitHub pages full width: https://github.com/xthexder/wide-github/

              Admittedly the usefulness has gone down a little bit in the last couple years now that GitHub themselves have made code diffs and some other things full width by default.

              When I first wrote this I had just gotten a giant 4K display at work and was really annoyed I still had to scroll left and right with the page only covering 1/3 of the screen.

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        They know if they do that people will just disable their cameras or put tape over it like they already do. If they make it so you can’t disable the camera without losing functionality then people won’t buy the product.

        If they try to push it by making a gentleman’s agreement with their competitors to make all tvs or phones use camera eye contact during ads well have to have fight back with more ad blockers and such.

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          I mean the concept is pretty simple, all they have to do is make whatever the content it is not play without the verification.

          Now I do have to say, it does come down to what is the system we do want? We can agree we don’t want intrusive ads. We can say that the paid for services are too expensive. But at the end of the day when we refuse to pay for the content, and then bypass the ads, we do leave content creation in a rough spot. We’ve kind of reached a point where we need a new system. Yet all we seem to do is try and find ways to break the existing one.

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    On my Roku TV I can’t block ads, when they play I mute the TV and look away. I am absolutely the level of autistic that I think I’m “winning” by doing this.

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    Put a pi-hole in my rooter filtering all adds of all webs and apps was the best thing I ever did.

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      So I have a conspiracy theory around that. Android used to put the volume slider at the top of the screen. At some point they moved it to the right side, and now blocks the skip button on YouTube. I won’t doubt this was done on purpose, so if you lower the volume for an ad, you will be forced to watch more of it.

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    I have adblock on my Mac, but not on the PS5. Whenever I watch YouTube on my TV via PS5, I have to open and close videos sometimes 10 or 15 times before they just play the video I’ve clicked on and not some obnoxious 45 second long advert for some bullshit I don’t want and won’t use. Honestly not sure why YouTube finds it so hard to play the video I clicked on and not random other videos. I also tend to stop watching vids as soon as an ad break happens.

    I work with a marketing department full time and they’re exactly as annoying as expected, always pissing about on tiktok or Instagram creating shit that nobody could possibly feasibly care about.

    Is there an alternative to YouTube on PS5 that doesn’t have adverts? Or is there some way to get adblocking on there?

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      I believe you would need a pihole, is like a ad block but in the entire network, so you could even use the official youtube app on a tv and not get any ad

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        I think they serve the ads from the same domain so DNS blocking wont work. And I heard they are testing baking the ads into the actual video.

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          I was using the pihole from my pc back in the day and it did work, but i totally forget about the ad injection on the videos

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            Pihole hasn’t made any difference on devices like smart TVs and consoles for years, at least in my experience. It really sucks but they broke me and I bought premium family because we use YouTube a lot on non pc devices and I hate ads so much

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    If I’m watching YouTube on my TV, I mute it when anything longer than a 5 second ad comes on. If what I’m watching is less than 10 minutes, I’ll just back out and start in again, usually it will come up without the ad, then seek to where I left off. Although oftentimes lately, I’ll be watching a 5 minute video, and I’ll get 1 minute in and get hit with an unskippable 2 minute ad, I just quit YouTube for the day.

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    Even better, make a list of the ads you see, and activelly avoid buying the products or services that they promote.

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    On Linux or Windows? Firefox + uBlock origin (there’s nothing better than that)

    On Mac? Firefox + uBlock origin (worse alternative: Safari + AdGuard, since you might synch browser with iPhone)

    On Android? Firefox + Privacy Badger + uBlock Origin

    On iOS? Safari + AdGuard + Vinegar + Baking Soda

    On SmartTV it’s different.

    Hardest overall solution: Get yourself a Pi-Hole https://pi-hole.net/

    For WebOS TVs use this: https://github.com/webosbrew/youtube-webos

    Android TVs should get SmartTube: https://github.com/yuliskov/smarttube#smarttube-old-name-smarttubenext

    RokuTVs got either this thing: https://channelstore.roku.com/en-ca/details/840aec36f51bfe6d96cf6db9055a372a/playlet or the open source alternative: https://github.com/iBicha/playlet