• InvertedParallax@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    They had one, they elected zelensky.

    It’s not genocide, freeing all those poor, oppressed minorities under the Russian Empire.

    It’s liberation, the freedom they deserve.

    You must be too young to remember when gorbechev offered Ukraine to stay in the new federation and they clearly said no.

    Who in their right mind would voluntarily want to be Russian?

    Most countries have something in their past to be proud of, Russia just has humiliation after humiliation after humiliation, all self_inflicted.

    Or inflicted on others, like the holodomor or all the purges.

    But seriously though, we owe them. They managed to unite the west with their invasion, they grew NATO and made Xi give up on taking Taiwan. Without their help we might have actually had to do something.

    Russia as an enemy is the greatest ally anyone can have.

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      4 months ago

      They had one, they elected zelensky.

      They elected Yanukovych. Then the west performed a coup on them. Then the definition of “they” changed when you and your nazi friends started doing ethnic cleansing in the east against the people who made up the majority of that election. After that calling anything later an ‘election’ is trash.

      You come off like a legit psycho.

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        4 months ago

        Yeah ok, this is just sad.

        The only ethnic cleansing Ukraine did was clearing all the Russian scrap trash from the Caspian.

        Not that it needed much help, the Russian navy is famous for turning their cruisers into submarines and their submarines into permanent submarines themselves.

        The Ukrainians were always the intelligent ones in the Russian empire and later the Soviet Union, without them Russia can’t keep lost of their tech going.

        The west needs to move further though, Finland and Sweden simply isn’t enough, we need to build up Georgia as well, and Armenia now that they’ve realized how useless an ally Russia is.

        We let russia go too far for too long, it’s finally time to end this nuisance so we can focus on problems that actually matter.