Lamarr!

Jesus, they can’t win

There is no chance Valve will make HL3 SteamOS or Linux exclusive.

I’m sorry my corrections to all your many errors are bothering you.

You got a pro managing it?

\sigh

Spaces before a full stop? Really?

Last.

A PS5 Pro is far more powerful than the average gaming PC.

And I don’t know why you think an APU can’t achieve good performance. The PS5 Pro manages it despite being a small die size and an old CPU architecture.

You talk of the need to make it manufacturable cheaply - that’s what APUs are good at. Having it across several chips that need more expensive board layouts, far more memory, and more advanced cooling adds cost.

Not a laptop-class one, no. That’s why I said custom. A PS5 Pro uses an APU and is more powerful than most people’s desktops.

It absolutely would. 16GB of VRAM and another 16GB of system RAM adds up. Plus the other associated costs.

The rumour is nonsense and Valve isn’t making a console with a 9070.

Like I said, it’s likely cheaper if you’re not going to sell many units, but if you can recoup the design costs through selling a decent amount, it can easily become cheaper.

Less in the way of packaging costs, fewer VRMs and other power circuitry, a less advanced cooling setup, and – probably most critically – you only need one pool of memory, not dedicated RAM for the CPU and separate VRAM for the GPU.

Interesting that it uses a dedicated 9070 (ugh that name), rather than being a custom APU, like the other AMD consoles and the deck. That just adds cost and design complexity. You’ve got to package multiple chips, have separate power circuitry for both, have separate memory pools, and a more complex cooling system.

That said, perhaps they’re being cautious - if you can’t sell a lot of them, a custom APU isn’t worth it. It’s also probably much faster to bring to market if you’re using off-the-shelf parts.

E: the source appears to only say Valve is working on 9070 drivers, therefore a steam machine must use a 9070. That’s a bit of a logic jump. For starters, any driver work on the 9070 will improve any other RDNA4 chips (including APUs). Also, Valve has done driver work on plenty of things that they don’t use in their own hardware, from various AMD cards, Intel graphics, and even work on the open source Nvidia drivers - they are gearing up to a general release of SteamOS, after all.

TL;DR: this rumour is almost certainly bullshit.

Nobody’s forcing you to buy one.

It would still be beneficial to have more people gaming on Linux/SteamOS.

Other than some of them having some really… quirky drivers (which is a big deal), nothing.

But most people don’t like installing OSes, and it’s still better to have official support than no support, so I think it’s still a benefit to the user to have it as an official option, and still benefits us to have a larger SteamOS userbase in general.

There are some in this community who are willing to go into “2008 web forum user in a PlayStation vs Xbox thread” over basically any consumer electronics they buy. Not just in terms of PC handhelds, but stuff like graphics card vendor too. It’s wild.

Bought a steam deck? Well then everything else is utter SHIT and those people are MORONS. Anybody that doesn’t buy a Steam Deck should be Windows only, even if that disadvantages me too!

We should be welcoming of people running whatever OS they want, and welcoming of manufacturers giving the option of SteamOS. Even more so when it will benefit Linux (and by extension Steam Deck) gamers.

As for the “poor Linux support” - that’s exactly what people are talking about reversing. If it officially supported SteamOS and had up-streamed drivers in the kernel, it wouldn’t have poor Linux support.

As for the other stuff, sure, perhaps you’re right. But nobody is saying you have to buy it. It’s still a benefit to you as a SD user to have more people using SteamOS.

To everybody dismissing this because they already have a steam deck: do you not think more SteamOS devices is a good thing for Linux/Proton gaming? This benefits Steam Deck owners too.

I have a deck and would 100% buy a Deck 2 assuming the price isn’t crazy, but I absolutely want more SteamOS offerings from other companies too.

I said OP knew exactly what kind of arguments this would spawn. And I believe that to be correct. It was inevitable.

What? I’m very well aware of the fears people, especially women, have at going out alone at night. It’s completely reasonable to feel fear in situations like that.

What’s your problem?

Predominantly other men. But that doesn’t make it ok.

Relax, David, you might get attacked or killed on your way back from work, but I don’t feel sympathy, because it’d probably be done by another man.

The reality is anybody can feel unsafe at night, and everyone is valid in thinking so. Women generally feel more threatened because, despite being far less likely to be targeted, they’re also far less likely to be able to resist their attacker, which is also very reasonable.