Id be surprised if all admins of every instance that’s federated with Lemmy are all on the same page, let alone looking for narrative driven bots.
I see “Ukrainian combat footage” with hundreds of upvotes and no comments, there was also an article speaking positively about facebook that had lots of upvotes and no comments (it’s in my history of you look, because I commented lol) - those look like red flags to me
There’s already loads of upvote/downvote bots in the fediverse here - would not be shocked if a large portion of them are from governments
Hah! yeah
How does Microsoft always fly under the radar?
Energy producers (one of the largest industries) of all kinds input propaganda into the world about their business - and their business is tied to climate research for public perception. Climate is definitely a manipulated message in one form or another
“Misleading Ads, funding experts, lobbying opinions”
This is also just every large industry/corporation ever
That’ll be $400 for the privilege…
Did you read that link you posted? Lmao
If you get past the first paragraph, suddenly there’s really no praising and they talk about how bad health care is in Cuba and how many try to defect as they are forced into horrible conditions.
From that article:
“He said, “We were placed in slums with a high level of violence, under constant monitoring by the Bolivarian brigades [political police], who are supposed to offer protection but also report any suspicious activities and assure that we carry out our `revolutionary’ duty, indoctrinating our patients to vote for Chávez. If we refuse to do so we are sent back to Cuba.””
That’s a fair criticism, we do need to find a better way
I was thinking more so about the ~7,000 - 8,000 doctors since 2006 that defected from Cuba as soon as they were able to.
Are you referring to the loosely defined “kulaks” (wealthy peasants) that were exiled/killed when the Soviet Union was created?
I wonder if this meme still applies to those who have fled communist countries?
Its kind of ironic that Lemmy was created to take away centralized power, but the same people want to create a communistic society which will…centralize the power?
Yeah but I’d rather not have the mods remove anything - it’s the ol’ “how do we fact check the fact checkers” conundrum.
One instance of an object or subject, can be viewed completely differently relative to your position in space and time. The observations of how something is functioning can be completely different from one observer to another, yet they can both be correct at the same time.
So how exactly do you tell the truths from the untruths without proving intentional manipulation in the first place?
“Handmaid’s tail etc”?
How do you give one example of 25% of the chart and say “because of this one weird thing, basically everything equals the middle circle”
Yeah, but the HR people rely on paycheques from corporate. And corporate often has enough resources to make legal battles difficult at best.
Even if their interests are aligned with you, they probably won’t have a job at the end
Kind of wild you got down voted for showing people credible sources that raise concern. I don’t think they want to hear it and I’m not sure why
You asked me what source I need to want full trials for a vaccine. You have the wit of a teenager.
mRNA hasn’t been used in a vaccine like this before.
30 years in the scheme of things is still absolutely nothing. We had lead in our gasoline and our drinking water pipes for decades without anyone actually understanding the issue, and just trusting “it’s all safe!”
Virus comes out and we pump out a fully produced vaccine in MONTHS. Of course it’s safe and tested fully /s
Right because injections and washing your hands are comparable.
The “source that told me” was a bit of critical thought and common sense. This was a vaccine with tech we’ve never used on massive populations before, pushed by political leaders, followed by media outlets and gov leaders trying to paint everyone who questions it as if they’re the worst people humanity has to offer. Ofc we need extensive trials for a vaccine like that (or any vaccine), especially when the producers of the vaccine are immune from liability.
Do you remember what informed consent is? If you’re injecting stuff into you, without fully understanding what either the virus itself can do, or what the vaccine can do, you’re just blindly following people.
It’s this same mentality and confusion that lead to our current opioid pandemic. Blind trust in our institutions and leaders
You’re going to get covid. Vaccine or not.
Get the vaccine if you’re elderly or have underlying risks, otherwise doing 3 shots a year to stay up to date doesn’t look very beneficial anymore.
We didn’t know how ineffective the vaccine was in the beginning, but our leaders still said things like “This will protect you. Fully. Everyone needs to have it”. I’ll provide links if you didn’t see any of that going on.
It was a lot more political than it was scientific, which is a huge red flag.
There obviously isn’t one, that’s part of weighing the risks - which we didn’t have enough time or data to do for covid and it’s vaccines. Part of the whole informed consent thing.
Thankfully we can all now choose, and see better data
The worst symptoms are death. I see your point about extending the metrics, and maybe I should consider more than just dying, but I think it’s a strong factor in why this whole thing seems over blown in the way mandates and restrictions came.
For polio, it was about stopping death, paralysis is a death sentence in most places in the world.
If it’s free from a for profit company, you’re most likely the product