I have self hosted immich on Debian on my homelab. I have also setup tailscale to be able to access it outside my home.
Sometime ago, I was able to purchase a domain of my choice from GoDaddy. While I am used to hosting stuff on Linux, I’ve never exposed it for access publicly. I want to do that now.
Is it something I can do within tailscale or do I need to setup something like cloudflare? What should I be searching for to learn and implement? What precautions to take? I would like to keep the tailscale thing too.
PS: I would like to host immich as a subdomain like photos.mydomain.com.
Thanks!
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This is honestly the most confusing and complicated part of self-hosting.
I agree! It took me years to finally decide to buckle down and wrap my head around what a “reverse proxy” is. Once I figured it out things became so much more usable and fun.
Combined with DNS redirects in my LAN (to get around NAT loopback), things are very easy to use.
You sound like me with Docker. Still unsure how to use that shit but haven’t sat down to really try again, either.
I agree, reverse proxy was also a little mind numbing before I really buckled down and read/watched a bunch of info on it. I learn best by examples and try-fail, but that’s hard to do with live services.
I found a lot of the problems I had with Docker were with Docker. Once I moved to using Portainer for Docker it became much more accessible.
I’ll take a look at it, thanks!
You need to pick a machine (if you only have 1 you don’t lol) to be your web portal, bang a block of code in via ssh or command line (I copy pasted) then you can access Portainer via the web portal.
From there “Stacks” is Docker Compose and you can fiddle with your containers, networking settings and all the other stuff via a UI instead of having to SSH in all the time to look at your compose files.
Then if you wanna use docker on more machines you just bang a block of code into that machine via ssh and it will appear in your Portainer
Far easier imho
I have saved this reply for the near future when I rebuild my server box to run Linux! Thanks again for your knowledge and information!
I have used reverse proxy in office setup where my local IP was NATed to a dedicated public IP. But in my home lab, I don’t have a dedicated public IP. So, i need to figure a way around that.
I’ve set up several instances in circumstances like yours. The easiest way is to create a duckdns domain for yourself, and install their updater on one of your systems, to keep your external IP up to date with their DNS-Servers. Then you can use a DNS-Provider of your choice (I use Cloudflare) to create a “CNAME” DNS Record, that basically just tells a browser to redirect from your domain to the IP Address of the duckdns domain. That way you can have an automatically updating public IP behind your domain name. Then you “just” have to set up a reverse proxy (I use Nginx Proxy Manager, but there are newer and easier alternatives), and create the correct port forwarding rules in your router/firewall, and you should be good to go
I know everyone loves to shit on Oracle, but a free-tier Oracle VPS would solve this.
Or if you want something decent pay for a cheap VPS.
We’re running home labs because we’ve learned that relying on “free” services eventually comes back to bite you.
Absolutely, if it was anything I needed or even really wanted to be sure was reliably available I’d never put it on a free VPS.
Now, something trivial like this that just requires installing wireguard and nginx, copying over some configs, and changing a DNS record? Hard to beat free.
Just run a cron job updating your IP every 24 hours. All I’ve ever done for the last decade or so.
I should clarify, I use namecheap as my registrar and Afraid as my nameserver. Afraid has curl, cron and even just a url i think you can use to update your IP.
Thank you! I’ll look into it.
This is the way.
If you have a dynamic WAN IP (like I do), you can make use of DDNS-updater services such as this.
Also, afaik, Immich does not have chunked uploads yet (not sure if it has been updated to include that) so you might have to check your DNS’ policies regarding traffic (e.g. Cloudflare proxy only allows up to 100Mb traffic and can’t be used to serve media from what I read).
There’s also the option of setting up a cloudflare tunnel and only exposing immich over that tunnel. The HTTPS certificate is handled by cloudflare and you’d need to use the cloudflare DNS name servers as your domains name servers.
Note that the means cloudflare will proxy to you and essentially become a man-in-the-middle. You – HTTPS --> cloudflare --http–> homelab-immich. The connection between you and cloudflare could be encrypted as well, but cloudflare remains the man-in-the-middle and can see all data that passes by.
I could be wrong, as I’m no expert, but cloud flare’s proxy limits file uploads to about 1GB. I had to disable it to upload larger videos to immich. For other services, probably decent advice.
Tailscale has a very neat feature called Tailscale Funnel, which makes this pretty easy
I read about funnel and it is really cool. But it seems to only expose the services through a *.ts.net type of URL. What I want is to use the domain that I’ve acquired.
Wouldn’t you be able to cname your domain to the tailscale domain?
Certs served by Tailscale will still be on *.ts.net domain.
I personally would be hesitant to host Immich publicly until they’ve done a security audit. The risk of accidentally exposing my photos publicly is too big for me.
That’s why I recommend using Tailscale or Wireguard directly. Personally I’m using Wireguard for me and Tailscale for other people I want to easily access my services.
Your point is valid. I’ll use the learnings from this thread for other, robust, services first and keep an eye on the progress of immich in terms of security.
Is immich the only service you want to expose? And did you installed it using docker or directly on your system?
For now only Immich, but on a sub domain like I said in the PS. And yes, immich is installed using docker.
Then I would suggest you to take a look at Reverse Proxies, which are programs that let you publicly expose different services hosted on the same computer under different (sub)domains.
The easiest to start with (and also probably the one that better fits your needs) afaik is NGINX Proxy Manager, which can be set up really easily using docker, and you can find plenty of tutorials online (here is one I watched when I was starting to look into docker and selfhosting, it’s a bit old but should still be valid).
If after having set up that you will to thinker around it a little bit and dive a bit deeper, there’s also Traefik which is pretty cool and also has a lot of materials to learn online.
I don’t remember if the video I linked mention it or not, but to use a reverse proxy to expose your services on the web you will first need to set up a dynamic dns (probably the easiest way is to use Cloudflare) or to ask your ISP for a static IP, then go into your routers settings and find the Port Forwarding section where you should tell your routers to send all the incoming traffic from ports 80 (HTTP) and 443 (HTTPS) to the local IP of your server. And then you should be ready to use spin up Nginx Proxy Manager or Traefik on your server.
(idk if I was clear or not but I swear it’s easier that how it seems ahah)
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
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I personally just use NPM in front of all of the services I make available public. It’s easy and handles the let’s encrypt certificates also.
From my Ubiquity router I just have port 80 and 443 forwarded to the NPM.
Without anything extra, there are three ways of doing it:
- Using Tailscale Funnel
- Direct port forwarding in your router, and pointing to the IP using some DDNS provider (e.g. desec.io)
- Through Cloudflare tunnel (not recommended due to privacy reasons)
In each case, you’ll need a reverse proxy (e.g. Caddy) if you want secure https connections.
If you’re willing to spend money, the better way would be to proxy through a VPS (using something like a Wireguard tunnel). In that way, you won’t have to open ports on your home router. You can get a very cheap one since proxying doesn’t need much CPU power. Just choose one with enough bandwidth. I personally proxy most of my stuff through a $12/yr RackNerd VPS.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters DNS Domain Name Service/System HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web HTTPS HTTP over SSL IP Internet Protocol NAT Network Address Translation SSH Secure Shell for remote terminal access SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption VPS Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting) nginx Popular HTTP server
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I’d recommend a web proxy service. It acts as a middleman, public > router > port forward to proxy / tailscale > proxy forwards by the domainto the correct service (immich).
Traefic is a good starter one.The most used but more advanced is probably nginx.
For SSL, use https://letsencrypt.org/, there are a bunch of tools to do it and some are automated. They expire faster but are free. Tailscale is a vpn tunnel so the ssl part may not be correct and they may have their own thing though.
Also godaddy is like the worst, expensive, ceo has hunted animals that shouadn’t be touched, and I always had outages when dealing with them. Namecheap is good, cloudflare, and porkbun.
Thanks, I’ll figure the best way out based on the responses.
And lol, I did not know about goDaddy being this bad since this was the first time I purchased a domain. Is it possible to move domains from one provider to another or do I have to wait for it to expire and then register on the other provider?
You can transfer at any tine and keep the remaining registration time. The only negative is you have to pay the new regristrar a rnewal fee to complete the trasnfer, this adds nore time to your domain, you just would have to pay it early once. They often do deals for transfers especially around holidays.
Thank you, I’ll work it out based on what you’ve told me.
