I’m sure Putin and his oligarchs are deeply concerned and would like to disarm any nazi you know of, especially if they reside in a Baltic or Slavic nation and hold state office.
Jokes aside, the fact remains: if Russia wins, you can expect weapons manufacturing to increase even more and that those supposed immovable borders promised with modernity start shifting again like “in the good old days”.
Nobody wants a return to old Europe, especially Europeans.
Jokes aside, the fact remains: if Russia wins, you can expect weapons manufacturing to increase
That’s stupid logic, if you don’t want weapons manufacturing to increase you stop increasing it. The thread is about european leaders wanting to ramp up weapons not decreasing them
Sure it will as there’s a global race at arms. Russia has X weapons so we must have X+1, this degenerates to the point where you are spending all your money on destructive weapons and you have rockets in your garden waiting to be used. There are a thousand ways to fight off russia that don’t involve manufacturing more explosive such as for example not closing an eye on countries like turkey and emirates providing a workaround to russia sanction but guess what? Producing more weapons is a much greater deal for european leaders
You’re assuming that Russia doesn’t have any imperialist aims and will simply magically turn peaceful once the evil, evil west stops manufacturing weapons
That’s certainly a take. So eg. Finland is an imperialist country because we have a military, which is definitely not meant to just keep the Russians from rolling over the border and doing a Ukraine / Georgia / Chechnya to us. I take it your view is that if we or the Georgians or Ukrainians didn’t have a military, we wouldn’t be in any danger?
Yes finland is just as imperialistic as the others they just are not in position to invade anyone. You don’t need an army to defend yourself from someone, people can defend themself much better without someone above them punishing them if they don’t follow authoritarian orders.
I’m sure Putin and his oligarchs are deeply concerned and would like to disarm any nazi you know of, especially if they reside in a Baltic or Slavic nation and hold state office.
Jokes aside, the fact remains: if Russia wins, you can expect weapons manufacturing to increase even more and that those supposed immovable borders promised with modernity start shifting again like “in the good old days”.
Nobody wants a return to old Europe, especially Europeans.
That’s stupid logic, if you don’t want weapons manufacturing to increase you stop increasing it. The thread is about european leaders wanting to ramp up weapons not decreasing them
So not manufacturing weapons will somehow stop Russia?
Sure it will as there’s a global race at arms. Russia has X weapons so we must have X+1, this degenerates to the point where you are spending all your money on destructive weapons and you have rockets in your garden waiting to be used. There are a thousand ways to fight off russia that don’t involve manufacturing more explosive such as for example not closing an eye on countries like turkey and emirates providing a workaround to russia sanction but guess what? Producing more weapons is a much greater deal for european leaders
You’re assuming that Russia doesn’t have any imperialist aims and will simply magically turn peaceful once the evil, evil west stops manufacturing weapons
I assume every nation with an army have imperialist aims
That’s certainly a take. So eg. Finland is an imperialist country because we have a military, which is definitely not meant to just keep the Russians from rolling over the border and doing a Ukraine / Georgia / Chechnya to us. I take it your view is that if we or the Georgians or Ukrainians didn’t have a military, we wouldn’t be in any danger?
Yes finland is just as imperialistic as the others they just are not in position to invade anyone. You don’t need an army to defend yourself from someone, people can defend themself much better without someone above them punishing them if they don’t follow authoritarian orders.
Spot the anarchist. What’s an anarchist defensive force look like anyways?